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	<title>Comments on: Deliverables and Methods: Special Deliverable #8</title>
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		<title>By: ML</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m wondering if we could go even one more step before Problem-Understanding?  Perhaps even a conceptual process for locating a problem...not just identifying symptoms.  The reason I bring this up is I&#039;ve been in meetings where I had a diagram to help with the understanding of the problem, but only to discover that the problem I was stating was really a symptom of higher-order problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering if we could go even one more step before Problem-Understanding?  Perhaps even a conceptual process for locating a problem&#8230;not just identifying symptoms.  The reason I bring this up is I&#8217;ve been in meetings where I had a diagram to help with the understanding of the problem, but only to discover that the problem I was stating was really a symptom of higher-order problem.</p>
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		<title>By: christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the &quot;make it bigger&quot; are here to stay-- it&#039;s up to us to figure out our responses, re: this weeks article http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/ten_quotable_moments_challenges_and_responses_for_ui_designers.php]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the &#8220;make it bigger&#8221; are here to stay&#8211; it&#8217;s up to us to figure out our responses, re: this weeks article <a href="http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/ten_quotable_moments_challenges_and_responses_for_ui_designers.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/ten_quotable_moments_challenges_and_responses_for_ui_designers.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I&#039;m wondering if we could go even one more step before Problem-Understanding? Perhaps even a conceptual process for locating a problem&quot;

Interesting thought, but I&#039;d be careful proposing that to clients. &quot;You mean you want to figure out how we&#039;re going to figure this stuff out?&quot;  I have nightmares where I find myself saying things like &quot;this is really a higher-order problem&quot; in front of clients...sort of like pointing out that their business strategy doesn&#039;t actually incude making money.

Re: the &quot;can&#039;t the tabs be green&quot; discussion: I think IA and ID needs to develop methods that accomodate that kind of client behavior; it&#039;s just not going to go away no matter how patiently you explain things. Surely graphic designers have been dealing with this problem for hundreds of years, no?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m wondering if we could go even one more step before Problem-Understanding? Perhaps even a conceptual process for locating a problem&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting thought, but I&#8217;d be careful proposing that to clients. &#8220;You mean you want to figure out how we&#8217;re going to figure this stuff out?&#8221;  I have nightmares where I find myself saying things like &#8220;this is really a higher-order problem&#8221; in front of clients&#8230;sort of like pointing out that their business strategy doesn&#8217;t actually incude making money.</p>
<p>Re: the &#8220;can&#8217;t the tabs be green&#8221; discussion: I think IA and ID needs to develop methods that accomodate that kind of client behavior; it&#8217;s just not going to go away no matter how patiently you explain things. Surely graphic designers have been dealing with this problem for hundreds of years, no?</p>
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