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		<title>By: instone</title>
		<link>http://boxesandarrows.com/designing-for-nonprofits/#comment-6931</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Olga - thanks for raising awareness of this aspect of making a difference. I think too often we get wrapped up in the &quot;corporate&quot; world in our discussions about user experience. One small nit about the title of your article, however. How about &quot;Designing WITH Nonprofits&quot; instead? I think the subtle change from &quot;for&quot; to &quot;with&quot; demonstrates the collaborative nature we are evolving to (instead of the &quot;I am the design agency and you are the client&quot;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Olga &#8211; thanks for raising awareness of this aspect of making a difference. I think too often we get wrapped up in the &#8220;corporate&#8221; world in our discussions about user experience. One small nit about the title of your article, however. How about &#8220;Designing WITH Nonprofits&#8221; instead? I think the subtle change from &#8220;for&#8221; to &#8220;with&#8221; demonstrates the collaborative nature we are evolving to (instead of the &#8220;I am the design agency and you are the client&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: tutormentor</title>
		<link>http://boxesandarrows.com/designing-for-nonprofits/#comment-6932</link>
		<dc:creator>tutormentor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Olga,

I lead a non profit tutor/mentor program in Chicago and network with the Big Brothers/Big Sisters in our area. I think your article reflects some of the realities of non profits, but would like to see the same story written by someone working with a local non profit that has a fraction of the resources of a large national network like BBBS.  Every challenge  you mentioned is magnified in the small non profit because instead of farming out the work to paid contractors, we have to farm it out to volunteers.  The only advantage we have is that being small, we often have less people in the decision-making mix. If we get an idea, and can find some volunteers and/or donors, we can move the idea forward.  In some respects I think this is a parallel to small companies competing for business with big companies, using the internet to innovate ways to develop new products and reach new customers faster and better than slower  moving organizations.

I&#039;ve posted messages on Boxes and Arrows and other IT networking sites in the past because I feel that there is a huge opportunity that has not  yet been maximized.  There are more than 200 different volunteer-based tutoring and/or mentoring programs in the Chicago region. Each has a need to market itself and draw volunteers and donors; each  has a need to find ways to use technology to support staff, volunteers and students, or create a learning environment where each member draws upon the resources of the network. Finally, each needs to find ways to demonstrate it&#039;s impact, both from an internal process improvement purpose, and from an external goal of showing donors the value of the work.

That means there is redundant work, and costs, built into this system.  I feel that if IT volunteers, or networks, who share the same passion for a cause, were to take an intermediary, or capacity building role, they could help non profits throughout a geographic area, or a charity sector that is common in many cities, get volunteers, donors, training, etc. more consistently and at less cost, than can each of the volunteer organizations on their own.

I&#039;ve mapped out this thinking at http://cmapspublic.ihmc.us/servlet/SBReadResourceServlet?rid=1178301962705_378512451_14531&amp;partName=htmltext and use my participation in social networking sites like this to invite others to duplicate this type of concept mapping, and/or volunteer time to help me in what I&#039;m trying to do.

Imagine if volunteers from Boxes and Arrows were creating concept maps to show how BBBS programs were connecting kids with mentors, and the result of this was ....what?  Or that they were showing how other non profits were mobilizing resources, or building networks, to end hunger, or reduce teen pregnancy, or reduce poverty around inner city hospitals.  Non profits can&#039;t do this type of work on their own, but could benefit from groups like this  using their talent to create blueprints of action strategies that others might follow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Olga,</p>
<p>I lead a non profit tutor/mentor program in Chicago and network with the Big Brothers/Big Sisters in our area. I think your article reflects some of the realities of non profits, but would like to see the same story written by someone working with a local non profit that has a fraction of the resources of a large national network like BBBS.  Every challenge  you mentioned is magnified in the small non profit because instead of farming out the work to paid contractors, we have to farm it out to volunteers.  The only advantage we have is that being small, we often have less people in the decision-making mix. If we get an idea, and can find some volunteers and/or donors, we can move the idea forward.  In some respects I think this is a parallel to small companies competing for business with big companies, using the internet to innovate ways to develop new products and reach new customers faster and better than slower  moving organizations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted messages on Boxes and Arrows and other IT networking sites in the past because I feel that there is a huge opportunity that has not  yet been maximized.  There are more than 200 different volunteer-based tutoring and/or mentoring programs in the Chicago region. Each has a need to market itself and draw volunteers and donors; each  has a need to find ways to use technology to support staff, volunteers and students, or create a learning environment where each member draws upon the resources of the network. Finally, each needs to find ways to demonstrate it&#8217;s impact, both from an internal process improvement purpose, and from an external goal of showing donors the value of the work.</p>
<p>That means there is redundant work, and costs, built into this system.  I feel that if IT volunteers, or networks, who share the same passion for a cause, were to take an intermediary, or capacity building role, they could help non profits throughout a geographic area, or a charity sector that is common in many cities, get volunteers, donors, training, etc. more consistently and at less cost, than can each of the volunteer organizations on their own.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve mapped out this thinking at <a href="http://cmapspublic.ihmc.us/servlet/SBReadResourceServlet?rid=1178301962705_378512451_14531&#038;partName=htmltext" rel="nofollow">http://cmapspublic.ihmc.us/servlet/SBReadResourceServlet?rid=1178301962705_378512451_14531&#038;partName=htmltext</a> and use my participation in social networking sites like this to invite others to duplicate this type of concept mapping, and/or volunteer time to help me in what I&#8217;m trying to do.</p>
<p>Imagine if volunteers from Boxes and Arrows were creating concept maps to show how BBBS programs were connecting kids with mentors, and the result of this was &#8230;.what?  Or that they were showing how other non profits were mobilizing resources, or building networks, to end hunger, or reduce teen pregnancy, or reduce poverty around inner city hospitals.  Non profits can&#8217;t do this type of work on their own, but could benefit from groups like this  using their talent to create blueprints of action strategies that others might follow.</p>
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		<title>By: fletcher2000</title>
		<link>http://boxesandarrows.com/designing-for-nonprofits/#comment-6933</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great article, very helpful! 
Working with (and for) non-profits is always both gratifying and challenging... when anyone working on a project is passionate about the mission, opinions become difficult to manage - especially when they&#039;re conflicting! Your point about IA&#039;s being valuable to non-profits is very valid, because it&#039;s so vital to always keep in mind the mindset of the outside audience visiting for the site for the first time with the intent to donate or volunteer. It&#039;s so easy for marketing teams to get lost in other goals and needs of the site when working in an environment where money and resources are always limited.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great article, very helpful!<br />
Working with (and for) non-profits is always both gratifying and challenging&#8230; when anyone working on a project is passionate about the mission, opinions become difficult to manage &#8211; especially when they&#8217;re conflicting! Your point about IA&#8217;s being valuable to non-profits is very valid, because it&#8217;s so vital to always keep in mind the mindset of the outside audience visiting for the site for the first time with the intent to donate or volunteer. It&#8217;s so easy for marketing teams to get lost in other goals and needs of the site when working in an environment where money and resources are always limited.</p>
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		<title>By: avisoudack</title>
		<link>http://boxesandarrows.com/designing-for-nonprofits/#comment-6934</link>
		<dc:creator>avisoudack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for opening this thread and sharing your experiences.

In my work with not-for-profit organisations I have noticed: 1) the challenge of too many objectives, 2) under-capitalisation, 3) competitive pressures, and 4) built-in community.

1) As you say, there are many stakeholders. Charities are often trying to reach a huge swath of people with greatly varied needs - from donors, to aid recipients, to sponsors, to scientific/professional audiences, and on. This can lead them to over-extend their strategy and to try to be all things for all those people. Focusing on what they can do well, and what the interactive media can do best is important, when there is no single bottom line. Sounds like you were helping them with the hard job of determining value. 

2) Like other organisations, not for profits want to use the internet for exciting things like social networking and efficiency improving things like web-based business processes. But designing  and building these well can take time and money. Often not-for-profits often don&#039;t have the resources to invest in doing this sort of thing well. And because of their economics, they tend to see building a web site (for example) as a cost, rather than an investment. That&#039;s why Daniell&#039;s call for cooperative efforts and shared resources makes sense.

3) Unfortunately, not-for-profits can be as competitive as for-profits. Within a sector, they compete for donors, resources, members, etc. So finding a platform for sharing can be hard. Typically it seems to work for organisations of the same type that serve different geographies. Again, IAs and the like can help the organisations find who they can best serve and share with.

4) Many not-for-profits have built in communities ... they take to messaging, forums, and sharing very easily, and they provide access to people who will willingly and enthusiastically help test designs and development work.

So, in some ways not-for&#039;s are not  dissimilar from other types of organisations, but they have unique challenges and opportunities that make them particularly interesting and rewarding to work with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for opening this thread and sharing your experiences.</p>
<p>In my work with not-for-profit organisations I have noticed: 1) the challenge of too many objectives, 2) under-capitalisation, 3) competitive pressures, and 4) built-in community.</p>
<p>1) As you say, there are many stakeholders. Charities are often trying to reach a huge swath of people with greatly varied needs &#8211; from donors, to aid recipients, to sponsors, to scientific/professional audiences, and on. This can lead them to over-extend their strategy and to try to be all things for all those people. Focusing on what they can do well, and what the interactive media can do best is important, when there is no single bottom line. Sounds like you were helping them with the hard job of determining value. </p>
<p>2) Like other organisations, not for profits want to use the internet for exciting things like social networking and efficiency improving things like web-based business processes. But designing  and building these well can take time and money. Often not-for-profits often don&#8217;t have the resources to invest in doing this sort of thing well. And because of their economics, they tend to see building a web site (for example) as a cost, rather than an investment. That&#8217;s why Daniell&#8217;s call for cooperative efforts and shared resources makes sense.</p>
<p>3) Unfortunately, not-for-profits can be as competitive as for-profits. Within a sector, they compete for donors, resources, members, etc. So finding a platform for sharing can be hard. Typically it seems to work for organisations of the same type that serve different geographies. Again, IAs and the like can help the organisations find who they can best serve and share with.</p>
<p>4) Many not-for-profits have built in communities &#8230; they take to messaging, forums, and sharing very easily, and they provide access to people who will willingly and enthusiastically help test designs and development work.</p>
<p>So, in some ways not-for&#8217;s are not  dissimilar from other types of organisations, but they have unique challenges and opportunities that make them particularly interesting and rewarding to work with.</p>
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		<title>By: bixwilson</title>
		<link>http://boxesandarrows.com/designing-for-nonprofits/#comment-6935</link>
		<dc:creator>bixwilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent article, Olga! It comes at a great time for me, too. I am just about to begin a volunteer project helping a local non-profit to redesign its site. I&#039;ll definitely keep your points in mind.

It&#039;s awesome to see my friends popping up on the web. Good luck to you and the team at GHC!

BC]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, Olga! It comes at a great time for me, too. I am just about to begin a volunteer project helping a local non-profit to redesign its site. I&#8217;ll definitely keep your points in mind.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s awesome to see my friends popping up on the web. Good luck to you and the team at GHC!</p>
<p>BC</p>
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		<title>By: olga</title>
		<link>http://boxesandarrows.com/designing-for-nonprofits/#comment-6936</link>
		<dc:creator>olga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comments everyone!

Keith: Your idea that the title of the article should read “Designing WITH Nonprofits” makes sense. 

Daniel: Thank you so much for sharing your map! You&#039;re exactly right that if we were to analyze and map how whole areas of our society work we would better understand where the problems and benefits lie. Most importantly, we would understand where we need to make changes. Also, your comment– &quot;Every challenge you mentioned is magnified in the small non profit because instead of farming out the work to paid contractors, we have to farm it out to volunteers.&quot;– is not addressed here because all of the nonprofits I worked with were large national organizations. There is so much more that can be written on this subject.

Alexandra: This is perfectly stated–&quot;...it’s so vital to always keep in mind the mindset of the outside audience visiting for the site for the first time with the intent to donate or volunteer.&quot; 

Avi: I&#039;m so glad you included number three in your list–&quot;3) Unfortunately, not-for-profits can be as competitive as for-profits. Within a sector, they compete for donors, resources, members, etc. So finding a platform for sharing can be hard. Typically it seems to work for organizations of the same type that serve different geographies. Again, IAs and the like can help the organizations find who they can best serve and share with.&quot;–as it is important to note that nonprofits are competing for dollars from the same audience.

BC: It&#039;s great to hear from you. Thanks for your kind thoughts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments everyone!</p>
<p>Keith: Your idea that the title of the article should read “Designing WITH Nonprofits” makes sense. </p>
<p>Daniel: Thank you so much for sharing your map! You&#8217;re exactly right that if we were to analyze and map how whole areas of our society work we would better understand where the problems and benefits lie. Most importantly, we would understand where we need to make changes. Also, your comment– &#8220;Every challenge you mentioned is magnified in the small non profit because instead of farming out the work to paid contractors, we have to farm it out to volunteers.&#8221;– is not addressed here because all of the nonprofits I worked with were large national organizations. There is so much more that can be written on this subject.</p>
<p>Alexandra: This is perfectly stated–&#8221;&#8230;it’s so vital to always keep in mind the mindset of the outside audience visiting for the site for the first time with the intent to donate or volunteer.&#8221; </p>
<p>Avi: I&#8217;m so glad you included number three in your list–&#8221;3) Unfortunately, not-for-profits can be as competitive as for-profits. Within a sector, they compete for donors, resources, members, etc. So finding a platform for sharing can be hard. Typically it seems to work for organizations of the same type that serve different geographies. Again, IAs and the like can help the organizations find who they can best serve and share with.&#8221;–as it is important to note that nonprofits are competing for dollars from the same audience.</p>
<p>BC: It&#8217;s great to hear from you. Thanks for your kind thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: jimhoekema</title>
		<link>http://boxesandarrows.com/designing-for-nonprofits/#comment-6937</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Olga,
  Thanks for the interesting story. I&#039;ve done several sites for small, local nonprofits. I&#039;ve found a huge range in expectations - everything from tremendous gratitude for getting anything at all up and running to wild expectations about having everything they ever seen or even heard of built into their &quot;free&quot; site! As you point out, though, the key ingredient is the the mission, and therefore these sites are very information-focused, plus the capacity for making online contributions.
  My greatest satisfaction was learning that a major worldwide funding organization became interested in our cause in large part because of the website, and they were amazed to learn this was an all-volunteer effort.
  Let me add my thanks also to Daniel for that very interesting &quot;mission map&quot;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olga,<br />
  Thanks for the interesting story. I&#8217;ve done several sites for small, local nonprofits. I&#8217;ve found a huge range in expectations &#8211; everything from tremendous gratitude for getting anything at all up and running to wild expectations about having everything they ever seen or even heard of built into their &#8220;free&#8221; site! As you point out, though, the key ingredient is the the mission, and therefore these sites are very information-focused, plus the capacity for making online contributions.<br />
  My greatest satisfaction was learning that a major worldwide funding organization became interested in our cause in large part because of the website, and they were amazed to learn this was an all-volunteer effort.<br />
  Let me add my thanks also to Daniel for that very interesting &#8220;mission map&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: jfruchter</title>
		<link>http://boxesandarrows.com/designing-for-nonprofits/#comment-6938</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article.  As someone who has worked with non-profits in an educational technology capacity, specifically as a producer of multimedia resources and websites for small to mid-size museums, I also find the incentives and challenges of working with non-profits equally compelling. At the moment, I am in the corporate sector because of the first issue Olga brought up - a non-profit&#039;s cash reality.  In a grant-funded position, work gigs were too short-lived, especially as funds got diverted into bricks and mortar projects (museum expansions).  What I wanted to add to the discussion was the issue of sustainability and maintenance.  For example, after creating an award-winning online interface for a collections management tool, there is currently little funding to keep the work going.  And, it&#039;s worthwhile work if winning the top award in its category from the American Association of Museums is any indication.  Sigh.  So, I find that the issues of sustainability and maintenace of designing/building technology for non-profits is another issue to tackle in the context of Olga&#039;s article and its subsequent comments.  Build it, love it, done is not the answer.  As we all know, there is no &quot;done&quot; with technology projects, especially now with the desirability of integrating social networking features and user-generated-content (where appropriate).  I think the problem of &quot;done&quot; thinking is also related to Olga&#039;s point where she discusses how a single project gets chopped up into smaller parts, all vendored out to different groups.  Ultimately, maintenance and sustainability isn&#039;t really it&#039;s own part, but needs to be built into the project plan, design and build all along.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  As someone who has worked with non-profits in an educational technology capacity, specifically as a producer of multimedia resources and websites for small to mid-size museums, I also find the incentives and challenges of working with non-profits equally compelling. At the moment, I am in the corporate sector because of the first issue Olga brought up &#8211; a non-profit&#8217;s cash reality.  In a grant-funded position, work gigs were too short-lived, especially as funds got diverted into bricks and mortar projects (museum expansions).  What I wanted to add to the discussion was the issue of sustainability and maintenance.  For example, after creating an award-winning online interface for a collections management tool, there is currently little funding to keep the work going.  And, it&#8217;s worthwhile work if winning the top award in its category from the American Association of Museums is any indication.  Sigh.  So, I find that the issues of sustainability and maintenace of designing/building technology for non-profits is another issue to tackle in the context of Olga&#8217;s article and its subsequent comments.  Build it, love it, done is not the answer.  As we all know, there is no &#8220;done&#8221; with technology projects, especially now with the desirability of integrating social networking features and user-generated-content (where appropriate).  I think the problem of &#8220;done&#8221; thinking is also related to Olga&#8217;s point where she discusses how a single project gets chopped up into smaller parts, all vendored out to different groups.  Ultimately, maintenance and sustainability isn&#8217;t really it&#8217;s own part, but needs to be built into the project plan, design and build all along.</p>
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		<title>By: andyw</title>
		<link>http://boxesandarrows.com/designing-for-nonprofits/#comment-6939</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As one who is down in the trenches, your overview really touches home.
I am an unpaid volunteer for a vastly underfunded &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mhanp.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mental health association&lt;/a&gt; in Erie, Pa; a city of only 100,000. We have self taught individuals willing to update and maintain our site but lack the expertise to design for the big picture; &quot;balancing appropriate design with the emotion necessary to inspire&quot;. Would it be possible, Olga, to list a few sites that your believe achieve this goal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one who is down in the trenches, your overview really touches home.<br />
I am an unpaid volunteer for a vastly underfunded <a href="http://www.mhanp.org" rel="nofollow">mental health association</a> in Erie, Pa; a city of only 100,000. We have self taught individuals willing to update and maintain our site but lack the expertise to design for the big picture; &#8220;balancing appropriate design with the emotion necessary to inspire&#8221;. Would it be possible, Olga, to list a few sites that your believe achieve this goal?</p>
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		<title>By: denise</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for writing this article. I think there needs to be a lot of discussion about these differences within the technology and design community. What I find interesting is that it was an easy transition for you to work with nonprofits after having a forprofit career. As someone who has worked as the lead web strategist, content developer, marketer, designer, and campaigner I find it is difficult to transfer those skills to the forprofit environment.

As the lead  in developing websites and web campaigns, I have worked with the larger CMSs, and agree wholeheartedly that nonprofits believe that those investments will lead to more donors or members. The trouble is, that most do not have the resources/time or content creators/moderators to implement the tools. 

In your experience, what were the primary tools that helped you to &quot;sell&quot; good UX design to your nonprofit clients. And what of your forprofit experience were they most interested in learning about. Do you provide any competitive analysis, metrics analysis, mulitvariate testing etc. In my experience, it seems nonprofits respond more to data than to &quot;creative&quot; expertise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this article. I think there needs to be a lot of discussion about these differences within the technology and design community. What I find interesting is that it was an easy transition for you to work with nonprofits after having a forprofit career. As someone who has worked as the lead web strategist, content developer, marketer, designer, and campaigner I find it is difficult to transfer those skills to the forprofit environment.</p>
<p>As the lead  in developing websites and web campaigns, I have worked with the larger CMSs, and agree wholeheartedly that nonprofits believe that those investments will lead to more donors or members. The trouble is, that most do not have the resources/time or content creators/moderators to implement the tools. </p>
<p>In your experience, what were the primary tools that helped you to &#8220;sell&#8221; good UX design to your nonprofit clients. And what of your forprofit experience were they most interested in learning about. Do you provide any competitive analysis, metrics analysis, mulitvariate testing etc. In my experience, it seems nonprofits respond more to data than to &#8220;creative&#8221; expertise.</p>
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